"I a short time ago want my kids!"?
Does paying 18K mean that you have kids even though you do not have kids beneath your roof, and an adoption is not final?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-i…
The assumptive entitlement these people display is unreal. I'm sorry that they lost a lot of money, but that they didn't get their "family" (they hold no family yet) gives me no worry.
And you?
When anything goes bust having paid for the service does not guarantee or entitle you to anything. Your s*it out of luck.
Santa Lil' Helper I bet Stephen Hawking would disagree near you. So would co-founder of Apple Mr Steven Jobs. Even that biblical figure Moses. Source(s): knows the little known facts.
I have closely of compassion for these people. The adoptions were not within jeopardy because these kids were able to find homes in their home country or because their first parents changed their mind or because in attendance are any ethical concerns or because there was suspicion of fraud or because Ethiopia did anything wrong or because the PAP's did anything wrong.
The adoptions are halt because of Imagine agency going bust.
This couple was adopting a sibling group who were living contained by an orphanage without any family willing or competent to look after them. These children are waiting for a family and these people are waiting to be parents. This is in jeopardy simply because of an agency. This agency going beneath puts a lot of children's future in serious jeopardy.
I've prearranged plenty of women who are trying to conceive and speak of their children as if they are very real when they are not yet pregnant. PAPs are no different. It's drastically emotional and as PAPs are human (gasp) they are also entitled (double gasp) to have feelings of torment and disappointment.
I hope all of these couples who were screwed over by this agency are able to do what wishes to be down to head to Ethiopia and adopt their children. Source(s): Compassion... it's not just for breakfast anymore :)))
I am kind of with you on this one. I know that they are upset because they are losing their money and their opening to get a child, but I cannot understand the drive to adopt children from overseas. I am stumped at how it is okay for white people who enjoy the money to do so think that it is okay to rape a country of its future.
Further, how does anyone know if these are true orphans? The assumption is that they are, but it is not known beyond a doubt. I know that the not at your best or the ones with problems are not the ones that get adopted; it is the wholesome, bright ones. The ones that could end up being the leaders of their country, that could lead their country within the future. The best and the brightest is what we want.
I don't like the assumption that because you plunk down money you can have your pick, that you are entitled to choose whichever one you want. I cannot follow how a country allows rich, entitled white folks to rape them of their future. Or, rather, yes I do. It is again, as always, more or less the money.
BTW, does anyone happen to know where their $18,000 went? Who get it? Why so much? Way too many questions here. I agree with you, Sunny.
That's a really sad situation.
When businesses go bankrupt, most those only get about 10 cents on the dollar for every dollar they lost to the skint business. However, this goes beyond financial loss... it includes heartbreak.
After all the money they spent with a company they believed be trustworthy, only to find they cannot adopt a child through this agency due to bankruptcy, it's hard for them to twig and accept the loss of the child they anticipated. The monetary loss is bad enough; the loss of a possible child to adopt is much worse.
cw
It is amazing that affluent couples would pay for damaged goods surrounded by the first place. At least puppies can be trained.
I find people's comments on this are extremely cold and callous. If you be a couple who could not conceive, could not wait for a Canadian baby, and chose to adopt from abroad, individual to find out the agency who was to be the legal liaison between the two countries just up and folded, you would be upset too. Not with the sole purpose have you just lost your last casual of adoption, but you have lost the only financial means you have to even try again. Give these people a break. This stress would be unbearable for most people. It make me sick for others to criticize people who only want something so basic as children within their lives. My heart goes out to them.
Answers: I am so sick of reading nearly people “investing” in their “dreams” (paying money to get what they want – another woman’s baby) I could puke.
Ethiopia is one of the most recent countries to be targeted for rape of their children/resources.
We are so authoritarian minded about “first” world cultures being so wonderful and “second or third” world cultures being so ruined that family members couldn’t possibly love one another to the same level that a more well-to-do family could.
We’ve simply lost sight of what family process to other people around the world, if we ever had any understanding of the goal to begin with. Why do we continue to denigrate other peoples lives instead of helping them inside their communities here or abroad?
I cannot speak for women from Ethiopia, China, Nepal, or any other country that the US and European countries target for adoption, but I doubt that mothers of any race feel any differently from me within losing their child/ren. It is heart-wrenchingly cruel and most often unnecessary.
From the article, Kelly implies that the fact that some adoption agency have folded has “destroyed people from one coast to the other.” She’s on to something there, but she’s one and only on to half of a much bigger picture. And I’m being generous surrounded by giving her 50%. Adoption destroys families around the world.
Sorry, but I’m not sympathetic. Source(s): First hand adoption loss.
I agree with what Sly said.
I feel fruitless they lost all that money and they are genuinely sad, but geez, the process the title of the article was phrased made my stomach knot up.
"My kids". Unfortunately those kids are still someone else's children. And it burns me to see that a lot of ethnic group think paying out a lot of money will get them doesn`t matter what they want. Source(s): Surprisingly self actualized adult adoptee
i don't think it's entitlement. they purely want families and are trying to help out kids that need them.
This story in recent times highlights that adoption is a business. This couple doesn't HAVE kids, so saying, "I just want 'my' kids" doesn't make sense. They remunerated money, now they expect a product. They already believe that someone else's children belong to them ("my" is a possessive term, after all). I doubt they'd have said word one if they have gotten a refund. Source(s): There are no refunds in adoption, whether you get your product or not.
If you pay for a service, it is satisfactory to expect that service will be provided. (In this case, making an adoptive match.) It is reasonable to emergency compensation when the service is not provided as contracted. That's just a matter of law.
If as regularly is often said, adoption agencies are businesses in it for the profit-- why on earth would you expect that they NOT be held to business standards for providing services? You sympathetic of... can't have it both ways.
In this case, there's the added burden that the couple hoped to become parents. There are a lot of dreams riding on this. I agree these aren't "their" children however, but I understand why they can't and won't just suck it up. By losing this money, they may have lost the unsystematic to adopt entirely-- so yes, it very well could be depriving them of the chance to adopt kids who would otherwise be their kids. I hold to say, yeah, I get why that would be painful, and why you would be at odds it.
I backfire to see how people being upset because an adoption agency went belly up and departed them in the lurch is being "entitled."
That term get thrown around way too often here.
Sorry, I'm not going beside you on this one. Its not like they were trying to adopt a healthy white newborn and the mother changed her mind and kept the newborn. These children that they, and other families affected by this, were adopt are true orphans, with no parents and no hope for a good life. (go ahead, report to me these kids are going to grow up happy and safe, orphaned in Ethiopia, near no one to care for them)
wats your QUESTION!?? Its babyfreefaq.com, so that society can answer your Q... ask one!!
I was going to post this story, but from CTV. I put comments on, and was if truth be told shocked at how many "thumbs down" I got, and people recounting me I don't understand. If they had read my post they would have see I was in their shoes, but chose ethical adoption.
I am sad that those feel the need to go to such lenghts, but the risk is the risk. I put that 18K towards a home for my children, not to buy them.
That said, I discern for the people, but still believe when agencies like this can exist, you have to know where on earth you are putting your money. Source(s): Adopted my children out of foster care.
go get them
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-i…
The assumptive entitlement these people display is unreal. I'm sorry that they lost a lot of money, but that they didn't get their "family" (they hold no family yet) gives me no worry.
And you?
When anything goes bust having paid for the service does not guarantee or entitle you to anything. Your s*it out of luck.
Santa Lil' Helper I bet Stephen Hawking would disagree near you. So would co-founder of Apple Mr Steven Jobs. Even that biblical figure Moses. Source(s): knows the little known facts.
I have closely of compassion for these people. The adoptions were not within jeopardy because these kids were able to find homes in their home country or because their first parents changed their mind or because in attendance are any ethical concerns or because there was suspicion of fraud or because Ethiopia did anything wrong or because the PAP's did anything wrong.
The adoptions are halt because of Imagine agency going bust.
This couple was adopting a sibling group who were living contained by an orphanage without any family willing or competent to look after them. These children are waiting for a family and these people are waiting to be parents. This is in jeopardy simply because of an agency. This agency going beneath puts a lot of children's future in serious jeopardy.
I've prearranged plenty of women who are trying to conceive and speak of their children as if they are very real when they are not yet pregnant. PAPs are no different. It's drastically emotional and as PAPs are human (gasp) they are also entitled (double gasp) to have feelings of torment and disappointment.
I hope all of these couples who were screwed over by this agency are able to do what wishes to be down to head to Ethiopia and adopt their children. Source(s): Compassion... it's not just for breakfast anymore :)))
I am kind of with you on this one. I know that they are upset because they are losing their money and their opening to get a child, but I cannot understand the drive to adopt children from overseas. I am stumped at how it is okay for white people who enjoy the money to do so think that it is okay to rape a country of its future.
Further, how does anyone know if these are true orphans? The assumption is that they are, but it is not known beyond a doubt. I know that the not at your best or the ones with problems are not the ones that get adopted; it is the wholesome, bright ones. The ones that could end up being the leaders of their country, that could lead their country within the future. The best and the brightest is what we want.
I don't like the assumption that because you plunk down money you can have your pick, that you are entitled to choose whichever one you want. I cannot follow how a country allows rich, entitled white folks to rape them of their future. Or, rather, yes I do. It is again, as always, more or less the money.
BTW, does anyone happen to know where their $18,000 went? Who get it? Why so much? Way too many questions here. I agree with you, Sunny.
That's a really sad situation.
When businesses go bankrupt, most those only get about 10 cents on the dollar for every dollar they lost to the skint business. However, this goes beyond financial loss... it includes heartbreak.
After all the money they spent with a company they believed be trustworthy, only to find they cannot adopt a child through this agency due to bankruptcy, it's hard for them to twig and accept the loss of the child they anticipated. The monetary loss is bad enough; the loss of a possible child to adopt is much worse.
cw
It is amazing that affluent couples would pay for damaged goods surrounded by the first place. At least puppies can be trained.
I find people's comments on this are extremely cold and callous. If you be a couple who could not conceive, could not wait for a Canadian baby, and chose to adopt from abroad, individual to find out the agency who was to be the legal liaison between the two countries just up and folded, you would be upset too. Not with the sole purpose have you just lost your last casual of adoption, but you have lost the only financial means you have to even try again. Give these people a break. This stress would be unbearable for most people. It make me sick for others to criticize people who only want something so basic as children within their lives. My heart goes out to them.
Answers: I am so sick of reading nearly people “investing” in their “dreams” (paying money to get what they want – another woman’s baby) I could puke.
Ethiopia is one of the most recent countries to be targeted for rape of their children/resources.
We are so authoritarian minded about “first” world cultures being so wonderful and “second or third” world cultures being so ruined that family members couldn’t possibly love one another to the same level that a more well-to-do family could.
We’ve simply lost sight of what family process to other people around the world, if we ever had any understanding of the goal to begin with. Why do we continue to denigrate other peoples lives instead of helping them inside their communities here or abroad?
I cannot speak for women from Ethiopia, China, Nepal, or any other country that the US and European countries target for adoption, but I doubt that mothers of any race feel any differently from me within losing their child/ren. It is heart-wrenchingly cruel and most often unnecessary.
From the article, Kelly implies that the fact that some adoption agency have folded has “destroyed people from one coast to the other.” She’s on to something there, but she’s one and only on to half of a much bigger picture. And I’m being generous surrounded by giving her 50%. Adoption destroys families around the world.
Sorry, but I’m not sympathetic. Source(s): First hand adoption loss.
I agree with what Sly said.
I feel fruitless they lost all that money and they are genuinely sad, but geez, the process the title of the article was phrased made my stomach knot up.
"My kids". Unfortunately those kids are still someone else's children. And it burns me to see that a lot of ethnic group think paying out a lot of money will get them doesn`t matter what they want. Source(s): Surprisingly self actualized adult adoptee
i don't think it's entitlement. they purely want families and are trying to help out kids that need them.
This story in recent times highlights that adoption is a business. This couple doesn't HAVE kids, so saying, "I just want 'my' kids" doesn't make sense. They remunerated money, now they expect a product. They already believe that someone else's children belong to them ("my" is a possessive term, after all). I doubt they'd have said word one if they have gotten a refund. Source(s): There are no refunds in adoption, whether you get your product or not.
If you pay for a service, it is satisfactory to expect that service will be provided. (In this case, making an adoptive match.) It is reasonable to emergency compensation when the service is not provided as contracted. That's just a matter of law.
If as regularly is often said, adoption agencies are businesses in it for the profit-- why on earth would you expect that they NOT be held to business standards for providing services? You sympathetic of... can't have it both ways.
In this case, there's the added burden that the couple hoped to become parents. There are a lot of dreams riding on this. I agree these aren't "their" children however, but I understand why they can't and won't just suck it up. By losing this money, they may have lost the unsystematic to adopt entirely-- so yes, it very well could be depriving them of the chance to adopt kids who would otherwise be their kids. I hold to say, yeah, I get why that would be painful, and why you would be at odds it.
I backfire to see how people being upset because an adoption agency went belly up and departed them in the lurch is being "entitled."
That term get thrown around way too often here.
Sorry, I'm not going beside you on this one. Its not like they were trying to adopt a healthy white newborn and the mother changed her mind and kept the newborn. These children that they, and other families affected by this, were adopt are true orphans, with no parents and no hope for a good life. (go ahead, report to me these kids are going to grow up happy and safe, orphaned in Ethiopia, near no one to care for them)
wats your QUESTION!?? Its babyfreefaq.com, so that society can answer your Q... ask one!!
I was going to post this story, but from CTV. I put comments on, and was if truth be told shocked at how many "thumbs down" I got, and people recounting me I don't understand. If they had read my post they would have see I was in their shoes, but chose ethical adoption.
I am sad that those feel the need to go to such lenghts, but the risk is the risk. I put that 18K towards a home for my children, not to buy them.
That said, I discern for the people, but still believe when agencies like this can exist, you have to know where on earth you are putting your money. Source(s): Adopted my children out of foster care.
go get them
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