Do you consistency responsible?
Do any of you violently opposed to adoption folks feel any culpability surrounded by the deaths of the Billings family in Florida? Do you cogitate your wild rhetoric and inflammatory postings may have contributed to the actions of any of the individuals involved?
Did it formulate you feel good to see those people lose their lives? Do you hope that possibly those kids will be sent back to the people who would not take responsibility for them surrounded by the first place?
oh geez..procure some help
1-I have yet to see any source motto conclusively that adoption had anything to do with this other than the reality that the people who were killed be adoptive parents. If you have some source clearly showing that their adopting was a factor contained by the murder, please feel free to share it. Otherwise you need to stop jumping to crazed conclusions
2-Do you as (I assume) an adoption supporter feel responsible for children who were adopted by wounding families or who were taken from their original family through unethical means? Probably not. Does it make you quality good to hear about those children's suffering? Probably not. Because unless you were certainly instrumental in creating that suffering, chances are your actions have very little to do with those specific circumstances. Similarly, as a critic of adoption, I don't feel responsible for this situation (if it even have anything to do with adoption, which I doubt).
3-If anyone is clearly guilty of wild rhetoric and inflammatory postings at the moment, that would be you.
Answers: what in the world?
Nope. I feel as though whoever did that have their own problems, and while outside forces may influence them to a point, they were already corrupt in their minds. I don't think that some race online had much to do with their decision to purloin the lives of those people.
I feel horrible for those people. They have taken in many special needs children who would hold otherwise languished in foster care. God merely knows where they are going to go presently.
"Wild rhetoric", as you so eloquently put it, incites many inflammatory conversations on this message board, but I highly doubt it would incite already murderous people to put to death adoptive parents strictly because they were adoptive parents. I think it had more to do near the fact that they were imbalanced people, and specifically putting it too mildly. Source(s): Adoptee, mother of 5
Yes, absolutely. I basically love it when people who open their loving home to children with special wants get wasted. Shame on them for not demanding womb wet in shape white infants.
Hoping that this answer is as absurd as the question. Source(s): Lordy - lordy. How far will the adoption industry go to calmness the truth about adoption??
HUH?
First of all, not a soul here is anti-adoption. We are anti-unethical adoption. We are ESPECIALLY pro-foster to adopt, or adopting older kids and kids with special wants, which is EXACTLY what these people did.
And, according to the latest news reports, 7 men enjoy been arrested and charged with killing the couple. They be workers. Adoption has nothing to do with this.
You seriously obligation medication.
ETA: for Sly: I stand corrected. I cannot say that I am anti-adoption, because unfortunately, there will other be a need for adoption- but those adoptions need to be ethical. I do agree that it should single happen when there is no one contained by the child's natural family to raise him or her. I also abhor international adoption, surrogacy and newborn adoption. So, we deeply agree, but choose to call ourselves something different. ;)
During the NBC evening news, they said 7 have be arrested, and money was the motive. The Billings' were very prosperous. Two of the men in custody were employees of the Billings'.
Its despicable. Source(s): unknown troll alert
What a stupid question! This is approaching asking a pro-lifer if they feel any responsibility for the death Dr. George Tiller as he came out of church. Equally stupid, both.
Of course I don't perceive responsible, and maybe if the state had given the parents the same subsidies that they give to these people they would have been competent to stay with their families. Source(s): ETA: Linny, I am not pro-adoption of any kind, not even foster. If nearby is NO ONE in family who can care for these children, after adoption as a last resort is okay. I am anti-adoption, for the most part, as I know some other mothers are as well as some adoptees.
As to these nation, I am waiting until I hear the rest of the story because it seems that there is a LOT more to this story than we have hear. I don't for a second believe that a military style execution is normal for people who are only adoptive parents and pillars surrounded by their community. It just doesn't ring true to me.
ETA More: Today, it seems that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is involved and this is no longer a simple local murder. The theft of the risk-free is of concern, and they are now saying that theft is single "one of several motives" being investigated.
I've seen race pretty angry at the "institution" (for lack of a better word) of adoption. I've seen some people form some pretty nasty remarks to adoptive parents.
But I've never seen anyone on this forum actually fan violence towards adoptive parents.
I don't think anyone on this forum should be made to feel responsible for something approaching this at all. I don't blame everyone who is against abortion for the murder of a doctor or the bombing of a clinic either.
I'll borrow two words from someone else - "Foolish logic"
"Do you feel responsible?"
I am reponsible for the activities of another individual (or group of individuals), arrrgghhh Nope.
"Do any of you violently opposed to adoption folks feel any culpability within the deaths of the Billings family in Florida? "
Violently opposed? Then I suggest that YOU do your "civic duty" and notify the appropriate authorities. We can't own people inciting murder.
Using your logic that would make YOU "responsible" for the rape and murder of 14 year old, Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi.
"Do you reflect on your wild rhetoric and inflammatory postings may have contributed to the actions of any of the individuals involved?"
How more or less we just blame those that misrepresent the facts - Fox News, CNN, NBC, ABC and O-Ollie. :o)
"Did it make you feel correct to see those people lose their lives?"
I strongly doubt anyone in here was at the scene to see these population being gunned down.
But, it is sad to hear about anyone dieing... yep i did read out anyone.. and yet, live goes on.. the world keeps spinning. inhabitants keep moving... the sun keeps shining.. blah blah blah
"Do you hope that maybe those kids will be sent stern to the people who would not take responsibility for them in the first place?"
Wow. Case solved. We enjoy motive. You should become a detective.
It was a shocking event. Shocking events happen all the time. Like what happen this year in Samson, Portland, Binghamton and many other towns and cities.
Sigh, sadly I do feel responsible. It be my rantings on y/a that made most of them criminals. It was my out bursts that manifested their past histories of robbery and previous prison convictions.
I touch so ashamed. I had no idea that my posting in a public forum be going to be taken so literally and cause mass hatred toward wealthy individuals who adopt special requests children.
I should have known from the White Album and the MANSON FAMILY that my voice, my words, about ethical adoption and unsealed accounts could be easily misconscrewed.
Forgive me.
Yes, as an adoptee, I am responsible for everything. Responsible for healing my amom's emotional pain, responsible for person abandoned by my n-family in the first place, responsible for not being grateful very soon that I am adult, and above all, responsible for the murders of people I don't know contained by a place I have never been to. Source(s): The deep foggy family secret who found her voice.
No. None at all.
Your attempt to try and discredit those of us who stand up and speak out for adoption reform is going on for as reliable as those who blamed pro-lifers, republicans, Christians, etc . . . for the killing of the doctor not too long ago.
Neither one makes any sense but I guess you can at least earn an "A" for physical exertion if that makes you feel better.
This is a very senseless question, however kudos to you for unite this online community. For once I think no matter how anyone feels in the order of adoption, everyone agrees you are an incredibly silly person for posting it. Source(s): Shame on you for using this tragedy in Florida to post such a stupid question. Show some respect for these children who own already endured so much trauma, and now are losing the only stability they have in their lives. You should be ashamed of yourself.
...What?!
I know there are some anti-adoption folks here, but they didn't put these kids where they be, nor did they force anyone to commit any crime.
I think this question is pretty inflammatory, actually.
I was under the impression the police be still unsure the motives behind the killings? All the speculation I've heard is that it be a financially-motivated crime against people who happen to be adoptive parents, not that they were targeted because of their adoptive parent status or because the killer opposed adoption.
I'm not anti-adoption at all, but the suggestion that everyone who advocates for that position bears responsibility within a crime they did not commit strikes me as quite unfair. People are allowed free speech, and can't be held culpable for someone else doing violence unless they wittingly incited it-- and I have NEVER seen the most ardent person here supporter harming anyone.
This is a terrible tragedy, and I feel horrible for that loved ones, especially the children left behind. But what happened be the killers' fault, not the fault of anyone here.
What an absurd question.
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Did it formulate you feel good to see those people lose their lives? Do you hope that possibly those kids will be sent back to the people who would not take responsibility for them surrounded by the first place?
oh geez..procure some help
1-I have yet to see any source motto conclusively that adoption had anything to do with this other than the reality that the people who were killed be adoptive parents. If you have some source clearly showing that their adopting was a factor contained by the murder, please feel free to share it. Otherwise you need to stop jumping to crazed conclusions
2-Do you as (I assume) an adoption supporter feel responsible for children who were adopted by wounding families or who were taken from their original family through unethical means? Probably not. Does it make you quality good to hear about those children's suffering? Probably not. Because unless you were certainly instrumental in creating that suffering, chances are your actions have very little to do with those specific circumstances. Similarly, as a critic of adoption, I don't feel responsible for this situation (if it even have anything to do with adoption, which I doubt).
3-If anyone is clearly guilty of wild rhetoric and inflammatory postings at the moment, that would be you.
Answers: what in the world?
Nope. I feel as though whoever did that have their own problems, and while outside forces may influence them to a point, they were already corrupt in their minds. I don't think that some race online had much to do with their decision to purloin the lives of those people.
I feel horrible for those people. They have taken in many special needs children who would hold otherwise languished in foster care. God merely knows where they are going to go presently.
"Wild rhetoric", as you so eloquently put it, incites many inflammatory conversations on this message board, but I highly doubt it would incite already murderous people to put to death adoptive parents strictly because they were adoptive parents. I think it had more to do near the fact that they were imbalanced people, and specifically putting it too mildly. Source(s): Adoptee, mother of 5
Yes, absolutely. I basically love it when people who open their loving home to children with special wants get wasted. Shame on them for not demanding womb wet in shape white infants.
Hoping that this answer is as absurd as the question. Source(s): Lordy - lordy. How far will the adoption industry go to calmness the truth about adoption??
HUH?
First of all, not a soul here is anti-adoption. We are anti-unethical adoption. We are ESPECIALLY pro-foster to adopt, or adopting older kids and kids with special wants, which is EXACTLY what these people did.
And, according to the latest news reports, 7 men enjoy been arrested and charged with killing the couple. They be workers. Adoption has nothing to do with this.
You seriously obligation medication.
ETA: for Sly: I stand corrected. I cannot say that I am anti-adoption, because unfortunately, there will other be a need for adoption- but those adoptions need to be ethical. I do agree that it should single happen when there is no one contained by the child's natural family to raise him or her. I also abhor international adoption, surrogacy and newborn adoption. So, we deeply agree, but choose to call ourselves something different. ;)
During the NBC evening news, they said 7 have be arrested, and money was the motive. The Billings' were very prosperous. Two of the men in custody were employees of the Billings'.
Its despicable. Source(s): unknown troll alert
What a stupid question! This is approaching asking a pro-lifer if they feel any responsibility for the death Dr. George Tiller as he came out of church. Equally stupid, both.
Of course I don't perceive responsible, and maybe if the state had given the parents the same subsidies that they give to these people they would have been competent to stay with their families. Source(s): ETA: Linny, I am not pro-adoption of any kind, not even foster. If nearby is NO ONE in family who can care for these children, after adoption as a last resort is okay. I am anti-adoption, for the most part, as I know some other mothers are as well as some adoptees.
As to these nation, I am waiting until I hear the rest of the story because it seems that there is a LOT more to this story than we have hear. I don't for a second believe that a military style execution is normal for people who are only adoptive parents and pillars surrounded by their community. It just doesn't ring true to me.
ETA More: Today, it seems that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is involved and this is no longer a simple local murder. The theft of the risk-free is of concern, and they are now saying that theft is single "one of several motives" being investigated.
I've seen race pretty angry at the "institution" (for lack of a better word) of adoption. I've seen some people form some pretty nasty remarks to adoptive parents.
But I've never seen anyone on this forum actually fan violence towards adoptive parents.
I don't think anyone on this forum should be made to feel responsible for something approaching this at all. I don't blame everyone who is against abortion for the murder of a doctor or the bombing of a clinic either.
I'll borrow two words from someone else - "Foolish logic"
"Do you feel responsible?"
I am reponsible for the activities of another individual (or group of individuals), arrrgghhh Nope.
"Do any of you violently opposed to adoption folks feel any culpability within the deaths of the Billings family in Florida? "
Violently opposed? Then I suggest that YOU do your "civic duty" and notify the appropriate authorities. We can't own people inciting murder.
Using your logic that would make YOU "responsible" for the rape and murder of 14 year old, Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi.
"Do you reflect on your wild rhetoric and inflammatory postings may have contributed to the actions of any of the individuals involved?"
How more or less we just blame those that misrepresent the facts - Fox News, CNN, NBC, ABC and O-Ollie. :o)
"Did it make you feel correct to see those people lose their lives?"
I strongly doubt anyone in here was at the scene to see these population being gunned down.
But, it is sad to hear about anyone dieing... yep i did read out anyone.. and yet, live goes on.. the world keeps spinning. inhabitants keep moving... the sun keeps shining.. blah blah blah
"Do you hope that maybe those kids will be sent stern to the people who would not take responsibility for them in the first place?"
Wow. Case solved. We enjoy motive. You should become a detective.
It was a shocking event. Shocking events happen all the time. Like what happen this year in Samson, Portland, Binghamton and many other towns and cities.
Sigh, sadly I do feel responsible. It be my rantings on y/a that made most of them criminals. It was my out bursts that manifested their past histories of robbery and previous prison convictions.
I touch so ashamed. I had no idea that my posting in a public forum be going to be taken so literally and cause mass hatred toward wealthy individuals who adopt special requests children.
I should have known from the White Album and the MANSON FAMILY that my voice, my words, about ethical adoption and unsealed accounts could be easily misconscrewed.
Forgive me.
Yes, as an adoptee, I am responsible for everything. Responsible for healing my amom's emotional pain, responsible for person abandoned by my n-family in the first place, responsible for not being grateful very soon that I am adult, and above all, responsible for the murders of people I don't know contained by a place I have never been to. Source(s): The deep foggy family secret who found her voice.
No. None at all.
Your attempt to try and discredit those of us who stand up and speak out for adoption reform is going on for as reliable as those who blamed pro-lifers, republicans, Christians, etc . . . for the killing of the doctor not too long ago.
Neither one makes any sense but I guess you can at least earn an "A" for physical exertion if that makes you feel better.
This is a very senseless question, however kudos to you for unite this online community. For once I think no matter how anyone feels in the order of adoption, everyone agrees you are an incredibly silly person for posting it. Source(s): Shame on you for using this tragedy in Florida to post such a stupid question. Show some respect for these children who own already endured so much trauma, and now are losing the only stability they have in their lives. You should be ashamed of yourself.
...What?!
I know there are some anti-adoption folks here, but they didn't put these kids where they be, nor did they force anyone to commit any crime.
I think this question is pretty inflammatory, actually.
I was under the impression the police be still unsure the motives behind the killings? All the speculation I've heard is that it be a financially-motivated crime against people who happen to be adoptive parents, not that they were targeted because of their adoptive parent status or because the killer opposed adoption.
I'm not anti-adoption at all, but the suggestion that everyone who advocates for that position bears responsibility within a crime they did not commit strikes me as quite unfair. People are allowed free speech, and can't be held culpable for someone else doing violence unless they wittingly incited it-- and I have NEVER seen the most ardent person here supporter harming anyone.
This is a terrible tragedy, and I feel horrible for that loved ones, especially the children left behind. But what happened be the killers' fault, not the fault of anyone here.
What an absurd question.
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