Please explain how medical histories work?
Lets try this again. My question was deleted in the order of what I misunderstood. so lets take a different route.
If you are surrendering a child it is ASSUMED that this would take place during the child position years.
Now if you are within the child bearing years what kinds of medical history can you overrun along with a child?
Does that information give a good representation of ALL of a child's medical history?
Is 29 infirm enough for a medical history to be complete?
Will ALL of your medical malfunctions manifest themselves by the time you're 50?
Can a complete medical history be obtained surrounded by a closed adoption?
Medical histories are ongoing. They affect an adoptee for their entire lives as the histories of their genetic relatives become known over time. It has been very well established that we are genetically influenced by those related to us. Alcoholism, mental illness, cancer, heart disease are only a few examples of what have been proven to be influenced by our genetics. To withhold this info from an adoptee is negligence in my feelings. The only way to get a clear picture of one's medical history is over time. This can simply be done through ongoing contact. While none of us has all of our history...the more info the better. A medical history is an MD's roadmap to early diagnosis.
Any one who take part in withholding such important information from a human being.what could be lifesaving information...is enabling negligence in my humble opinion. Source(s): Medical social worker married to MD.and adoptee.
Well, a medical history can be considered "complete", meaning that up to this point in time, everything is accurate. So, a 29 year prehistoric can list all known medical allergies, surgeries, medical conditions, family unit history of medical conditions (etc) and it can be complete and accurate *at that point in time*. But then, that same 29 year old can develop breast cancer surrounded by another 20 years, etc. Or her father could have developed diabetes. Medical history changes every time something happens.
As far as a closed adoption go, I thought that meant that the adoptive parents had NO information at all on the biological relations, and vice-versa. I think by virtue of having medical information make it a semi-open adoption? I could be wrong.
Medical histories are a joke as far as closed adoption go. The history is as old as the adoptee is.
Even for myself, my medical history is much different now than when I have my children. I was diagnosed with a rare (but GENETIC) cancer when I be 34. My N Father did not get that cancer until he was 56. My n grandfather also died from the same cancer, and that be 10 years before my n Dad did. I also have diabetes and heart disease in my n own flesh and blood. These issues should be made known so an adoptee and THEIR children can take preventative measures.
It does not matter HOW aged the n Mom is. Medical history changes constantly.
Even if adoption is closed because of abuse or neglect, n parents should be required to submit robustness updates at least every few years. Source(s): my own joke of a medical history that I was given since I searched
Medical history is never 'complete"..as nation are always getting older.
Diagnoses change, as economically. Therefore, for information to be relevant it needs to be updated.
It would be a good notion for 'closed adoption" to be illegal. Secrecy in adoption should be done away with.
Medical history is a two-way street. When my son and I reunited, it turned out that he have some conditions that my family was unaware of. These conditions are serious, and appear to be genetic contained by our family.
We didn't know this part of our history. When information is shared, it should be updated on both sides.
At the time I surrendered my son, I was 18 and my parents be younger than 40. All healthy, all of us, and grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. That was MY side of the equation. The father and I have never really discussed his family's medical history and the agency didn't contact them. Since it was illegal to put the name of the unmarried father on the BC, his information, stale the top of my head, was the best that they got.
My son contacted me when he be 23 ( tried to at 18, but the agency lied to him.for 5 more years!) and by the time he contacted me, every single person in the generations above me have died from diseases that were often hereditary. The agency have not put one of the messages I had sent to them about medical conditions in his directory.they put NOTHING in his file, including the consent to contact I had file on his 16th birthday. Even his father had died about 3 months after he turned 18. He died a hideous death due to a brain tumor.
Medical history surrounded by adoption can only provide, at best, the mother's side of the story. It is illegal for a mother to provide information that is not available to her, and hers is the single information she has a right to.
For myself, I would not turn in any information sent to me by any government agency to update medical information. My medical information is mine and I supply it to whom I please. I am more than happy to share whatever medical information I have near my son, verbally, but I will never complete some form and submit it to a government clerk to place in my folder along with papers that I am not allowed to see. I am the only source for my medical information. That is as it should be, and is, justifiably.
It is impossible for a complete medical history to be obtain in a closed adoption. Health is continuously evolving throughout an individual's life and those conditions one has a genetic propensity to develop might not be observed until much after that in life (age 60+).
Answers: Medical histories change through the years. Having no contact with anyone on either side restricts anyway to update what is intellectual as the years go on. That is common sense.
At sixteen, when I surrendered my oldest son, the only medical history I be aware of and informed his aparents about was asthma (which he did inherit from his father.) Ironically, the health information for our relatives began to change drastically in our overdue twenties and on into our thirties.
My husband's father died from a heart attack at the age of 50 and it was then that they linked the heart problems adjectives through the family because my husband's grandfather also died from a heart attack at age 52.
At 28 I was diagnosed with hypothyroid which is also adjectives in many cases and within the concluding few years my husband's mother and older brother were both diagnosed with diabetes. My husband himself, only just a month ago, went into the ER and spent two days in Intensive Care because he too had not solely formed diabetes (type one) but his body was in the process of shutting down because of the dangerous affects of large blood sugar levels.
Because my son's aparents closed his adoption when he was only five, he would own never known any of these things if we had not reunited. He would have prearranged only about asthma and nothing further and fundamentally well could have grown older and face the risk of losing his life to either a heart attack or untreated diabetes.
You are 100% right. You can not have accurate strength records in a closed adoption. It simply is not possible.
ETA: My husband pointed out another side to the medical history - my mom., myself and adjectives my children (including my oldest son) walk on our toes. We thought it was normal to own stress on our calves walking up the stairs and that every one went through it. It wasn't until almost fifteen years after surrendering my son that we learned (because my youngest son had to own surgery on both his ankles at the same time) that it is actually a genetic condition where the achiles muscle is too tight and causes complication in walking and stress on walking on your heels. I always thought it be just a quirk for myself and my family but for my oldest son, whose aparents didn't know about this condition or see it as even a "quirk" he grew up man yelled at constantly to walk on his heels and told by his adad that individual "fags" walked like he did.
It wasn't medical info that could have save his life. But it was definitely something that might enjoy made his aparents understand a bit more why he was walking on his toes without throwing insults at him for doing so. Source(s): Just another explanation why closed adoptions should not exist.
I can only answer in terms of my adoption. My parents be given a medical history at the time of adoption. It did not have info about my biological father as he was not told in the order of the adoption. And yes, the info would be ridiculously out of date very quickly seeing as my biological mom be 16 at the time.
However, the agency they went through does allow you to request updated medical histories whenever you want. So, assuming that they were still able to find my biological mother and she would agree to update the info, it is possible that the medical history could have been updated periodically. However it still would have be missing half of the information since they didn't list my bio-dad anywhere on the adoption records.
ETA: And I agree beside Devon. It would be great if agencies and such would have a service where bio-parents could notify them of important medical change and the agency would notify the adoptee rather than just waiting for someone to ask for it.
I was 19 when I surrendered and my medical history wasn't complete nor be my family's. When I was reunited with my son I was competent to update it for him but it's still evolving as medical problems can happen right up till the day you die as well as like happening to family members.
We were given only agreed genetic medical conditions in the family. It was voluntary information. Other adoptive parents I know own been given nothing. But if something comes up they can ask for some confirmation from their childs first mother through post adoptions. Its a have a flutter, because its up tp her to release the information or not.
Other than that I think it a violation of privacy, I don't need to know if she have to have a test done for something etc.
When my father died we didn't know it was due to a genetic condition surrounded by the male line. It comes out mainly within their 60's. We worked it out only a few months ago thats it been in the relations for a few generations. (He died the same way as his father and a few uncles died alike way and at almost the same age.) Thats why the men had heart conditions. (Its a bit complex to explain exactly the condition, I don't hold that much typing time.) But the only way to get rid of it is to 'breed' it out. Not enjoy any boys. Lucky me I never had boys or they might have ended up near it and likely die in their 60's from a condition that developes in around month and is fatal.
I think its impossible to be 100% sure of things like that. As a parent is my gut instinct say something not right I tell the doctors to check it out further or get a referral to a specialist. Source(s): Adoptive mum
Well, no. In a closed adoption, you can't possibly be aware of foreign developments as time goes on. The best you can hope for is some semblance of information gathered "thus far", but, especially for cardiac problems and endocrine issues, there commonly will not be any manifestation of those issues until the 30's,40's or 50's.
I was relieved to know my first family's medical history when we re-united. Nothing serious, but it was nice to know that I wasn't waiting for the other shoe to drop on some major congenital issue.
ETA: I also really resembling what Can'tStopLinnyG said about requiring natural parents whose children were apprehended via children's services to check contained by with medical updates. Unfortunately, I think it's a pipe dream. We can hardly hold on to track of my daughter's first mom, just for the sake of knowing where she is later. I am have to be constantly vigilant just to make sure she is still in matching city I was last aware of. Source(s): Adoptee/ AP
No one can ever have a complete medical history unless they know their ancestors history. Nevermore, if you dont stay in touch with your current extended nearest and dearest your not ever going to have a complete medical history.
"Now if you are within the child bearing years what kind of medical history can you pass along with a child?"
An incomplete history. Secondly, we still live in a world where on earth disorders like depression, anxiety are seen as weaknesses and as such are from time to time disclosed. Third, it's not until someone gets cancer or a some serious disease before people start query about their medical history. Thats when you find out that uncle Johnie died .. so did great uncle ray.. and so did aunti fay... but in a closed adoption that information is from time to time updated on those records.
"Is 29 old enough for a medical history to be complete?
Will ALL of your medical malfunction manifest themselves by the time you're 50?"
Nope and Nope. You could be 75 before anything serious happens. Even then a 75 year antediluvian may not be aware of any extended family being seriously ill.
"Can a complete medical history be obtain in a closed adoption?"
No. It can't even be achieved with non-adoptees. You can just know what is known at any point in time. But that is individual dependent on that known being fully disclosed. Of course there are going to be some nice individuals out there who do the right thing and update the child records continuously, but contained by reality it rarely happens.
It wouldn't be complete during childbearing years. I would like to see some sympathetic of registry where first parents could add things as they come up and have the people of the child notified. I have had 2 close call so far where knowing medical history could have been VERY devoted. Both times the doctors asked if the issues "ran in my family" and I had no clue. None. Being that my first mother be 14 (from what my a-parents tell me) she wouldn't have a clue as to adult-onset ailments. Even her own mother was probably still below 45.
I think there should be an option for first parents to own open update-able records. This way they can hang on to things up to date, and the adoptee can check to see if anything major might be in store for them in the adjectives.
This alone makes me call for open adoption whenever possible. All else aside. Source(s): Adoptee, mother of 5
These days adequate medical history is available to adoptive parents and is presented to adjectives foster parents at within 2 weeks of placement--supposed to br presented by then: Actually it is a state policy here.
When we adopted 20 years ago we received adjectives the medical they had and bwe added to her medical by the time we adopted her.
Yes a complete medical history can be obtained within a closed adoption.
29 was old enough for a medical history to be completed contained by our case.
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If you are surrendering a child it is ASSUMED that this would take place during the child position years.
Now if you are within the child bearing years what kinds of medical history can you overrun along with a child?
Does that information give a good representation of ALL of a child's medical history?
Is 29 infirm enough for a medical history to be complete?
Will ALL of your medical malfunctions manifest themselves by the time you're 50?
Can a complete medical history be obtained surrounded by a closed adoption?
Medical histories are ongoing. They affect an adoptee for their entire lives as the histories of their genetic relatives become known over time. It has been very well established that we are genetically influenced by those related to us. Alcoholism, mental illness, cancer, heart disease are only a few examples of what have been proven to be influenced by our genetics. To withhold this info from an adoptee is negligence in my feelings. The only way to get a clear picture of one's medical history is over time. This can simply be done through ongoing contact. While none of us has all of our history...the more info the better. A medical history is an MD's roadmap to early diagnosis.
Any one who take part in withholding such important information from a human being.what could be lifesaving information...is enabling negligence in my humble opinion. Source(s): Medical social worker married to MD.and adoptee.
Well, a medical history can be considered "complete", meaning that up to this point in time, everything is accurate. So, a 29 year prehistoric can list all known medical allergies, surgeries, medical conditions, family unit history of medical conditions (etc) and it can be complete and accurate *at that point in time*. But then, that same 29 year old can develop breast cancer surrounded by another 20 years, etc. Or her father could have developed diabetes. Medical history changes every time something happens.
As far as a closed adoption go, I thought that meant that the adoptive parents had NO information at all on the biological relations, and vice-versa. I think by virtue of having medical information make it a semi-open adoption? I could be wrong.
Medical histories are a joke as far as closed adoption go. The history is as old as the adoptee is.
Even for myself, my medical history is much different now than when I have my children. I was diagnosed with a rare (but GENETIC) cancer when I be 34. My N Father did not get that cancer until he was 56. My n grandfather also died from the same cancer, and that be 10 years before my n Dad did. I also have diabetes and heart disease in my n own flesh and blood. These issues should be made known so an adoptee and THEIR children can take preventative measures.
It does not matter HOW aged the n Mom is. Medical history changes constantly.
Even if adoption is closed because of abuse or neglect, n parents should be required to submit robustness updates at least every few years. Source(s): my own joke of a medical history that I was given since I searched
Medical history is never 'complete"..as nation are always getting older.
Diagnoses change, as economically. Therefore, for information to be relevant it needs to be updated.
It would be a good notion for 'closed adoption" to be illegal. Secrecy in adoption should be done away with.
Medical history is a two-way street. When my son and I reunited, it turned out that he have some conditions that my family was unaware of. These conditions are serious, and appear to be genetic contained by our family.
We didn't know this part of our history. When information is shared, it should be updated on both sides.
At the time I surrendered my son, I was 18 and my parents be younger than 40. All healthy, all of us, and grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. That was MY side of the equation. The father and I have never really discussed his family's medical history and the agency didn't contact them. Since it was illegal to put the name of the unmarried father on the BC, his information, stale the top of my head, was the best that they got.
My son contacted me when he be 23 ( tried to at 18, but the agency lied to him.for 5 more years!) and by the time he contacted me, every single person in the generations above me have died from diseases that were often hereditary. The agency have not put one of the messages I had sent to them about medical conditions in his directory.they put NOTHING in his file, including the consent to contact I had file on his 16th birthday. Even his father had died about 3 months after he turned 18. He died a hideous death due to a brain tumor.
Medical history surrounded by adoption can only provide, at best, the mother's side of the story. It is illegal for a mother to provide information that is not available to her, and hers is the single information she has a right to.
For myself, I would not turn in any information sent to me by any government agency to update medical information. My medical information is mine and I supply it to whom I please. I am more than happy to share whatever medical information I have near my son, verbally, but I will never complete some form and submit it to a government clerk to place in my folder along with papers that I am not allowed to see. I am the only source for my medical information. That is as it should be, and is, justifiably.
It is impossible for a complete medical history to be obtain in a closed adoption. Health is continuously evolving throughout an individual's life and those conditions one has a genetic propensity to develop might not be observed until much after that in life (age 60+).
Answers: Medical histories change through the years. Having no contact with anyone on either side restricts anyway to update what is intellectual as the years go on. That is common sense.
At sixteen, when I surrendered my oldest son, the only medical history I be aware of and informed his aparents about was asthma (which he did inherit from his father.) Ironically, the health information for our relatives began to change drastically in our overdue twenties and on into our thirties.
My husband's father died from a heart attack at the age of 50 and it was then that they linked the heart problems adjectives through the family because my husband's grandfather also died from a heart attack at age 52.
At 28 I was diagnosed with hypothyroid which is also adjectives in many cases and within the concluding few years my husband's mother and older brother were both diagnosed with diabetes. My husband himself, only just a month ago, went into the ER and spent two days in Intensive Care because he too had not solely formed diabetes (type one) but his body was in the process of shutting down because of the dangerous affects of large blood sugar levels.
Because my son's aparents closed his adoption when he was only five, he would own never known any of these things if we had not reunited. He would have prearranged only about asthma and nothing further and fundamentally well could have grown older and face the risk of losing his life to either a heart attack or untreated diabetes.
You are 100% right. You can not have accurate strength records in a closed adoption. It simply is not possible.
ETA: My husband pointed out another side to the medical history - my mom., myself and adjectives my children (including my oldest son) walk on our toes. We thought it was normal to own stress on our calves walking up the stairs and that every one went through it. It wasn't until almost fifteen years after surrendering my son that we learned (because my youngest son had to own surgery on both his ankles at the same time) that it is actually a genetic condition where the achiles muscle is too tight and causes complication in walking and stress on walking on your heels. I always thought it be just a quirk for myself and my family but for my oldest son, whose aparents didn't know about this condition or see it as even a "quirk" he grew up man yelled at constantly to walk on his heels and told by his adad that individual "fags" walked like he did.
It wasn't medical info that could have save his life. But it was definitely something that might enjoy made his aparents understand a bit more why he was walking on his toes without throwing insults at him for doing so. Source(s): Just another explanation why closed adoptions should not exist.
I can only answer in terms of my adoption. My parents be given a medical history at the time of adoption. It did not have info about my biological father as he was not told in the order of the adoption. And yes, the info would be ridiculously out of date very quickly seeing as my biological mom be 16 at the time.
However, the agency they went through does allow you to request updated medical histories whenever you want. So, assuming that they were still able to find my biological mother and she would agree to update the info, it is possible that the medical history could have been updated periodically. However it still would have be missing half of the information since they didn't list my bio-dad anywhere on the adoption records.
ETA: And I agree beside Devon. It would be great if agencies and such would have a service where bio-parents could notify them of important medical change and the agency would notify the adoptee rather than just waiting for someone to ask for it.
I was 19 when I surrendered and my medical history wasn't complete nor be my family's. When I was reunited with my son I was competent to update it for him but it's still evolving as medical problems can happen right up till the day you die as well as like happening to family members.
We were given only agreed genetic medical conditions in the family. It was voluntary information. Other adoptive parents I know own been given nothing. But if something comes up they can ask for some confirmation from their childs first mother through post adoptions. Its a have a flutter, because its up tp her to release the information or not.
Other than that I think it a violation of privacy, I don't need to know if she have to have a test done for something etc.
When my father died we didn't know it was due to a genetic condition surrounded by the male line. It comes out mainly within their 60's. We worked it out only a few months ago thats it been in the relations for a few generations. (He died the same way as his father and a few uncles died alike way and at almost the same age.) Thats why the men had heart conditions. (Its a bit complex to explain exactly the condition, I don't hold that much typing time.) But the only way to get rid of it is to 'breed' it out. Not enjoy any boys. Lucky me I never had boys or they might have ended up near it and likely die in their 60's from a condition that developes in around month and is fatal.
I think its impossible to be 100% sure of things like that. As a parent is my gut instinct say something not right I tell the doctors to check it out further or get a referral to a specialist. Source(s): Adoptive mum
Well, no. In a closed adoption, you can't possibly be aware of foreign developments as time goes on. The best you can hope for is some semblance of information gathered "thus far", but, especially for cardiac problems and endocrine issues, there commonly will not be any manifestation of those issues until the 30's,40's or 50's.
I was relieved to know my first family's medical history when we re-united. Nothing serious, but it was nice to know that I wasn't waiting for the other shoe to drop on some major congenital issue.
ETA: I also really resembling what Can'tStopLinnyG said about requiring natural parents whose children were apprehended via children's services to check contained by with medical updates. Unfortunately, I think it's a pipe dream. We can hardly hold on to track of my daughter's first mom, just for the sake of knowing where she is later. I am have to be constantly vigilant just to make sure she is still in matching city I was last aware of. Source(s): Adoptee/ AP
No one can ever have a complete medical history unless they know their ancestors history. Nevermore, if you dont stay in touch with your current extended nearest and dearest your not ever going to have a complete medical history.
"Now if you are within the child bearing years what kind of medical history can you pass along with a child?"
An incomplete history. Secondly, we still live in a world where on earth disorders like depression, anxiety are seen as weaknesses and as such are from time to time disclosed. Third, it's not until someone gets cancer or a some serious disease before people start query about their medical history. Thats when you find out that uncle Johnie died .. so did great uncle ray.. and so did aunti fay... but in a closed adoption that information is from time to time updated on those records.
"Is 29 old enough for a medical history to be complete?
Will ALL of your medical malfunction manifest themselves by the time you're 50?"
Nope and Nope. You could be 75 before anything serious happens. Even then a 75 year antediluvian may not be aware of any extended family being seriously ill.
"Can a complete medical history be obtain in a closed adoption?"
No. It can't even be achieved with non-adoptees. You can just know what is known at any point in time. But that is individual dependent on that known being fully disclosed. Of course there are going to be some nice individuals out there who do the right thing and update the child records continuously, but contained by reality it rarely happens.
It wouldn't be complete during childbearing years. I would like to see some sympathetic of registry where first parents could add things as they come up and have the people of the child notified. I have had 2 close call so far where knowing medical history could have been VERY devoted. Both times the doctors asked if the issues "ran in my family" and I had no clue. None. Being that my first mother be 14 (from what my a-parents tell me) she wouldn't have a clue as to adult-onset ailments. Even her own mother was probably still below 45.
I think there should be an option for first parents to own open update-able records. This way they can hang on to things up to date, and the adoptee can check to see if anything major might be in store for them in the adjectives.
This alone makes me call for open adoption whenever possible. All else aside. Source(s): Adoptee, mother of 5
These days adequate medical history is available to adoptive parents and is presented to adjectives foster parents at within 2 weeks of placement--supposed to br presented by then: Actually it is a state policy here.
When we adopted 20 years ago we received adjectives the medical they had and bwe added to her medical by the time we adopted her.
Yes a complete medical history can be obtained within a closed adoption.
29 was old enough for a medical history to be completed contained by our case.
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